Alan says, "Second speaker - Michael Grau - is on now." Fractal waves to Michael and welcomes him Alan says, "His relaitonship to tech. is problematic - etc. - you can see his stuff on the Website - the entire paper - so he's going to take a shorter amount of time" Alan says, "I should mention all of us have our clothes on at the moment even though this isn't being projected..." Fractal wants to know why it isn't? Dria suddenly realizes she can't read and listen at the same time...damn. Fractal giggles at Dria. zone appreciates this important bit of information...decides to wear clothes too...just cuz everyone else is... Alan says, "He's talking about the mandlebrot set now - it's not because there's one screen and it's being used for an enlargement of the paper he's giving" Alan says, "And the paper before included images from fractal programs (DOS which was interesting)" Fractal says to zone, "oh why bother..world would be a better place if we all ran naked anyhow." zone smiles at Fractal Monakee says bye in advance - lag is so bad, e'll try ra alone Fractal winks slyly to zone. Alan says, "Michael was interested in the relationship of philosophy to fractal vis-a-vis Mandlebrot set" Fractal waves to Monakee. zone waves to Monakee Alan says, ""It's back to fractal etc. which he's suspicious of as a model for natural growth (I am too, heh)." Fractal wonders what that relationship constitutes and heads for the web site to read the paper.. Monakee has disconnected. Fractal winks slyly to Alan. zone wants to know more about suspicions of fractal structure Alan says, "For some reason I'm experiencing intense deja-vu at the moment, almost as if I were here sometime years ago, in 1996..." zone laughs Fractal says to Alan, "I know a good doctor" Fractal chuckles. Alan says, "Depends what's meant by "good"..." A very large pelican scoops Monakee up in its enormous beak and flies off to drop em in bed. nana fades in from Entry Point and joins you. zone says, "Depends what's meant by "doctor"..." Alan says, "he's describing a cosmological model givenon another television program and its relationship to .... not sure, information ecology..." Fractal says to Alan, "No, think he just passed to the netherspaces--name was Leary I believe." Alan says, "whatever it is, it's rotcod backward...." zone laughs Fractal giggles. Alan says, "something fishy... ah well..." zone nods Fractal waves to nana. Dria dejavus ..._Ecology of communication_. Hm. Rakosha reconnects. Rakosha smiles. zone waves to Rakosha nana waves to Fractal. Rakosha . o O ( i can see again ... ! ) zone waves to nana Fractal notes that there is no need to commit the naturalistic fallacy here--just leave it that there is no 'good' Rakosha smiles at zone. Dria waves to Rakosha. Fractal hugs Rakosha warmly. Rakosha grins at Fractal. Rakosha smiles at Dria. Fractal asks Rakosha, "How goes it?" nana waves to zone. Rakosha asks Fractal, "it goes well ... yourself ... ?" Rakosha hmms thoughtfully. Fractal exclaims to Rakosha, "Heh..I died for 11+ hours..crashtime!" Alan says, "Well Timothy leary just came up actually... so we're moving into some strange spaces at the moment..." laurie asks, "what's the speaker saying?" Alan says, "I think you should read the on-line papers." Fractal nods to Alan. Dria pokes Michael. He's mumbling. Dria says, "ah..that's better" Fractal thrives in strange places.. laurie says, "i looked at the papers. i want to know what's happening." Fractal exclaims, "Let's go!"