Alan says, "We're moving on to Martin's presentation - "Technical Support, Chair, and Speaker - he's wearing three hats - has a VR helmet here - "
Fractal smiles at Rakosha.
zone laughs
Fractal says to laurie, "I'm jealous"
zone likes the applause meter...thanks Dria :)
Dria grins
Rakosha says, "Martin Dougiamas - Machine-Augmented Thought"
Alan says, "Talking about fractals and complexity but not much to do with education and the web - so the topics are just changing - he's going to talk on the same sort of stuff.."
laurie says, "Well, it seems like its either audio or picture. the pictures not too good."
Rakosha says, "talking about access ..."
Rakosha says, "martin realises we have microphones ..."
Dria laughs
Fractal says to laurie, "Yes, my reception was pretty sketchy..slow too."
Alan says, "Talking about how using text requires intellectuality - that the audience is fairly narrow in the whole world - it's restricting a whole lot of people -"
Alan says, "Talking about some interfaces, etc. - techno magazines - show a few working examples that improve the access to cyberspace"
Alan says, "Technology is fundamental to how things are approached philosophically"
Fractal wonders how techno zines improve access
Rakosha says, "demo time ..."
Alan says, "He's showing a few demos from a another computer - CuSeeMe is going to be shut off"
Rakosha says, "losing cuseeme ... RA still happening ..."
Alan says, "Asks for comments"
Alan says, "Now we have a truly beautiful screen... lots of stuff up - keystoned"
Fractal strins to see and bats its hand at the mooscreen
Alan says, "Going to a place that is called hotsource that runs on everything, has fractal spaces etc."
Rakosha says, "fractals as an imformation source ..."
Fractal strains too..sheesh
Rakosha says, "hot source ..."
Alan says, "Houstsource format...."
zone tries to imagine "fractal spaces"...
Alan says, "It's fairly amazing ..."
Rakosha says, "indeed ..."
Rakosha nods to Alan.
Alan says, "It's fractal"He's runnnig around all sorts of demo stuff...."
Dria says, "Damn, I've gotta get me that.  Sounds cool."
iIi fades in from Entry Point and joins you.
iIi smiles and waves
zone waves to iIi
Dria smiles at iIi
Rakosha smiles at iIi.
Alan says, "James, we're running very late here - we may have to reschedule - unless people can talk about your paper right now - this is James Sempsey I think"
Fractal waves at iTi
Alan says, "ili""
Rakosha says, "we're playing descent, now ... :)"
Dria laughs.  You guys get all the fun.
Alan says, "We're having real life demos here - now it's of a game -"
Rakosha grins at Dria.
Alan asks, "James are you there?"
iIi says, "Well - I am unsure as to WHEN I was actually su[pposed to talk about my paper anyway  :)"
Dria says, "Mmm...Quake."
Alan asks, "It's pretty messy here - maybe you can get responses by email - not sure?"
Rakosha nods vigorously to Gria.
Alan asks, "Where are you?"
Rakosha says, "Dria, too ... dang darkness ..."
Dria grins
Fractal chuckles at Rakosha.
iIi says, "I checked out the RA  its not comming in too clearly..  and the CuSeeMe is totally screwed."
Dria says, "I've got RA perfectly...weird...I'm half-way round the planet :>"
Alan says, "hmmm.... CuSeeMe is off at the moment because of the projections etc. - "
nana has disconnected.
Alan asks, "What's with the RA? What is the problem? We might be able to adjsut them?"
iIi says, "ah well that might expalin the CuSEEME"
Dria laughs
laurie says, "I haven't gotten RA at all."
Alan says, "He's playing descent ...."
iIi says, "The RA could just be a bad connection or something.  It seems to be breaking up at 28.8"
Alan says, "Talking about CuSeeMe at the moment - it's not hard to imagine, he says, combining CuSeeMe with virtual environments..."
Alan says, "So that your avatar will have CuSeeMe connected..."
Dria says, "neat."
A very large pelican scoops nana up in its enormous beak and flies off to drop it in bed.
Rakosha nods.
zone . o O (hmmm...avatars viewing avatars...)
Rakosha says, "very ... :)"
Alan says, "This is, according to Martin, in our near future."
Alan says, "Going to an educational three d game - called sniffer dog..."
Fractal says to Alan, "Tell him that I wonder whether CuSeeMe kind of presence, whether it might actually serve to destroy cybercommunities."
iIi says, "Actually - I am currently working on a project that incorporates a CUseeme type interface into MUDS"
zone laughs...sniffer dog...ha
Dria dances to the spiffy music
Alan says, "This is pretty terrific, complete with country western music...."
Rakosha grins.
Rakosha says, "he walked into the pole of the tent ... ;)"
Dria laughs
Alan says, "It's about teaching spaital location"
Alan says, "He just bumped into a virtual tent"
Rakosha cackles maniacally.
iIi says, "The interface actually pastes your CuSEEME face onto an avatar in a 3D virtual space."
Rakosha says, "spatial location, and he walks into the pole ... ;)"
laurie asks, "James, what field are you in?"
Alan says, "The music is just jumpy bumpy - it's getting darker, thunderstorm approaching..."
Alan says, "whoo whoo"
Alan says, "a wheelbarrow, trying to find the first clew"
Dria says, "sounds spooky"
Alan says, "mind you this is written for two year olds, but he's having his difficulties..."
iIi says, "I'm in CMC to Laurie"
Dria laughs madly
Rakosha slaps her forehead.
iIi says, "woops :)"
laurie asks, "what discipline did you start from?"
iIi says, "Educational psychology"
Rakosha says, "that's alan ..."
zone tries to fathom software for two year olds...
Alan says, "There's a clue, press sniff... "sniffer dog is just terrific..."
Rakosha says, "it's very very cool ... :)  suss it ... :)"
Dria snicker
zone has disconnected.
laurie says, "I'm planning my dissertation to be looking at cmc researchers in relation to their original disciplines."
Rakosha says, "glimmer ..."
Alan says, "another thing - a sphere turning inside out..."
Dria lets her multi-dog imagination run wild
iIi says, "%:LOL"
Alan says, "a program called gglimmer"
Dria smiles
Alan says, "this is for three d stuff - you wear glasses..."
Rakosha says, "this would be _so_ amazing in 3d ...."
Alan says, "different spaces, different things to move around in"
A very large pelican scoops zone up in its enormous beak and flies off to drop her in bed.
Alan says, "This could be a lowbandwidth moo space."
Dria says, "oo...spiffy."
Alan says, "you might want to look for this stuff..."
Rakosha says, "he got fried ..."
Rakosha grins.
laurie says, "iIi, your paper looks very interdisciplinary."
Alan says, "now we're back at the menu again..."
Alan says, "Martin's working on a vrMOO"
Dria asks, "Alan, could you mail out a list of the software?"
Dria asks, "when you get time?"
Alan says, "was hoping it could be ready for the cybermind moo - can be entered in telnet or through the Web with a vr picture"
Rakosha says to Dria, "the logs of the sessions will be up on the net later on tonight -- our time ..."
Dria says, "ah...okay."
Alan says, "Not any more than I have here  - the software list - don't have it - I can ask Martin to post it -"
Rakosha smiles at Dria.
iIi says, "Laurie:  I suppose it is.  Especially since - when I wrote it there were'nt too many CMC researchers in psych."
Dria says, "Alan, thanks."
Alan says, "MARTIN WILL POST THE STUFF ON THE WEBPAGE ---"
Dria says, "thanks Alan, thanks Martin :)"
Alan says, "WOO - a webbed MOO - he's building"
Rakosha exclaims, "WOO ... !"
Imago yells a thank you too
laurie says, "that's what i'm really interested in, interdisciplinary nature of cmc studies."
Alan says, "go to if it works, http://complex.curtin.edu.au:8000 - he's beginning it"
Alan says, "it's in process - "
Alan says, "I think you could action this now."
iIi asks, "Has anyone here ever visited Alphaworld or Onlive?"
Dria goes to check
Alan says, "Uses VRML to look at the potplant"
Alan says, "I've been to worldschat and thepalace"
Imago asks iIi, "not me..what are they like?"
iIi says, "Similar ideas - except those other worlds are 3D"
Dria says, "hm...server error."
Imago asks iIi, "How slow or fast are they?"
Dria says, "ah...that explains it."
Alan says, ""This can't be accessed by other people at the moment - you need to have an account - sorry about that - he's demoing it here - will open it up"
iIi says, "Alphaworld is 3D but the conversations are typed."
Rakosha goes out through the out door.
iIi says, "OnLIVE is 3D but the conversations are spoken."
iIi says, "They are both adequately fast if you have the right set up."
Dria wanders off for a sec
Rakosha fades in from Entry Point and joins you.
Imago asks iIi, "Do you see that as having more educational/conferencing value as opposed to social/literary value?"
Alan says, "He's got a map of the campus on now - this may or may not be accessed - doing a dynamic database of the campus."
iIi says, "I believe that each type of environment will have its plusses and minusses relative to their applications."
Dria wanders back.
laurie says, "iIi, i'm interested in your call for a metatheoretical framework."
Alan says, "http://www.curtin.edu.au/vr/ - see if anyone is able to get this - it is open"
Imago says, "Me too"
Alan says, "You can even go to the particular computer in the computer lab and see if anyone is using it."
Alan says, "even a vrml version of the room"
Alan says, "this is pretty amazing"
Dria says, "'page not found' *hm*"
iIi says, "Im gonna check out that VR page BRB"
Alan says, "Sorry - it's www.curtin.edu.au/~vr/"
Alan says, "you need the tilde - it got erased form the title"
Alan says, "Sorry - check it out "
Rakosha says, "quake ..."
Dria goes to check
Alan says, "We are deeply and passionately in love with all of you, Rakosha and myself."
Rakosha says, "definitely, absolutely ..."
Alan says, "It's amazing, this arousing passion, burning through our hearts and minds day in and day out..."
Dria says, "the feeling is returned, a thousand-fold ;>"
Rakosha says, "impossible to contain ourselves ... the distance is too great ..."
Alan exclaims, "And a million million from our end as well.. WE YEARN FOR YOU!"
Rakosha says, "the feeling too immense ..."
iIi asks, "Got it.  Hmm - well where does one go from the home page?  Just wander around or do we get a tour?"
Alan says, "too immense... - try and work around the home page - click on the map, etc. - we went into the computer center, even saw the individual workstations"
Alan says, "in a kind of diagrammatic vrml way - it's for the campus here and work swell"
laurie says, "Phooey, I can't see it with Internet Explorer."
Rakosha nods to Alan.
Alan says, "hmmm.... will tell him...."
Dria says, "I've got it on NS3.0"
Rakosha nods to Dria.
Alan says, "I've got it on the wall..."
Dria says, "bandwidthy (ugh)  "
Dria cuts off RA.
Rakosha chuckles.
Alan says, "looking at http://evlweb.eecs.uic.edu/pape/CAVE/demos/"
Rakosha says, "ee vee ell web, that is ..."
Alan says, "oh we are so entangled here..."
Dria says, "the wonders of copy/paste :>"
Alan says, "Rakosha, remove your tentacles from my monitor air ducts, oh please, pleeeeeese..."
Rakosha refuses, tentacles sliming across the back of Alan's monitor, she cackles gleefully ...
Alan says, "damn, everything shorted out... no longer can breathe... brea... grhgslkre.ohhh..."
Imago wakes up and pokes Rakosha for being a cheeky thang.
Dria says, "damn, I'm falling in love with all of you."
Rakosha muhahahahahahaha's ...
Dria bookmarks and re-RAs
Rakosha removes her tentacles from the comatose monitor ...
Alan exclaims, "I am still alive! he cries!"
Rakosha waggles her tentacles uselessly ...
Alan says, "We're actually running later and later...."
Rakosha exclaims, "i am tentacled ... !"
Imago has to run guys..will join again later.
Alan says, "Rakosha has tied herself into knots... "
Rakosha hugs Imago warmly.
Alan says, "bye "
Alan offers hugs to all.
Dria says, "bye Imago"
Rakosha waves to Imago.
Alan offers hugs to all.
Alan offers hugs to all.
Alan offers hugs to all.
Imago waves and hugs each warmly.
laurie says, "bye imago"
Alan laughs.
Rakosha grins at Alan.
Alan wanders around kicking anything in her path.
iIi says, "bye"
Imago exclaims, "Bye guys..GREAT AND WONDERFUL WORK YOU'VE DONE HERE.. All of ya!"
Imago waves to everyone here.
Imago goes home.
Alan says, "Talking about making a discussion space - with a cave-time system or screen on the wall "
laurie asks, "what is cave time?"
Rakosha says, "real time searches based on a conversation ..."
iIi says, "Well I tried lookat some of the pages - like that cave/demo thingy.  i got SERVER DOWN."
Alan says, "Real--time resources appearing on the wall -"
Alan says, "It's up here - it's not local -"
Rakosha nods.
iIi says, "Oh"
Alan says, "http://evlweb.eecs.uic.edu/pape/CAVE/demos"
Dria slips into meditation for a sec brb
iIi says, "Ill try again"
Alan says, "ok - let us know"
Rakosha tries to exist on no sleep ...
Alan thinks my name is "No Sleep," and R is existing on me
Rakosha asks, "how's stelarc's cackle ... ?"
Alan says, "mumuing..."
Rakosha exists ... semi ...
laurie asks, "mumuing?"
Alan says, "A local word, means kiboshle."
Dria asks, "who's talking?"
laurie asks, "kiboshle?"
iIi asks, "Ah - I finally got it.  Now what?"
Rakosha says, "virtual WebSpace Builder ..."
Alan says, "Looking at something called virtual webspace builder"
Rakosha grins at Alan.
Rakosha trips over ...
Alan grins at you.
Alan trips over...
Rakosha bops Alan on the head.
Alan baps you on the head.
Dria smother hugs Alan.
Rakosha tackle hugs Dria ...
Alan says, "smother hugs Drio."
Alan oops, I lost the game.
Alan help, I'm lost in actions!
Rakosha grins at Alan.
Dria just glories in the affection :)
Alan help I can't speak ever again!
iIi says, "Hmm - "
Alan exclaims, "grins in quotation marks!"
Dria laughs
Alan says, "this is all being logged by the way -"
Rakosha says, "486+, 4 Meg to view vr stuff ..."
Rakosha says, "he reckons ..."
iIi says, "Im just AWEFUL at paying attention to more than one or two windows.  :("
Rakosha boggles.
Alan says, "We need a break -"
Rakosha exclaims, "a BREAK ... ~!"
Alan says, "on later -"
Rakosha spins around happily.
Dria cringes once again at the *loud* applause