Perfect_Beauty says, "We're back again...\" Rakosha smiles. laurie asks, "do we finally get to talk to the audience?" Dria says, "Yay :)" Fluffy says, "typing blind - screen on CU" Perfect_Beauty says, "I'm sorry there are so few people here online. - yes, you're literally always tlaking to the audience..." Dria is in a much more gleeful mood Rakosha says, "everyone's just coming in ... we're getting moo projected ..." Rakosha cheers enthusiastically at Dria. Dria grins Rakosha licks Dria ever so slowly. Perfect_Beauty says, "People are here and Lynne is about to begin, on the Telepresence in Text-Based Virtual Environments, followed by Stelarc" Perfect_Beauty says, "Jerry introduces Lynne Roberts" Perfect_Beauty says, "Research she's been doing as part of her Phd." laurie says, "too dark." Perfect_Beauty says, "Info presented through interviews she's had with more than 100 people on MOOs and chats, etc." laurie says, "that's better." Dria says, "(um...audio's a bit mumbly)" Perfect_Beauty says, "Here are the questions - please answer on-line if you would'nt mind -" Dria says, "okey." Dria says, "(much better audio, thnx)" laurie says, "sure." Rakosha smiles at Dria. Quizzeramulus asks, "First, What is the text-based virtual environmen"What is the text based virtual environment you most frequently use?" laurie says, "ooh, probably moos. it used to be talk." Dria says, "Mailing Lists (if that counts)" Quizzeramulus says, "Answer the second - not the first - What is" Martin has connected. Martin says, "Whee.." laurie says, "email and usenet if we mean asynchronous too." Martin says, "No probs, Dria" Fluffy says, "focus on text-based environs only pleez" Quizzeramulus says, "Second - What is the extent to which you feel "telepresence" in the virtual environment? - mark on a scale of zero to ten - zero not at all tlepresent, 10 totally telepresent" laurie says, "oh, pmc-moo but not very often." Quizzeramulus says, "For me, I'd put 8" Dria asks, "telepresent?" laurie says, "5-6" Rakosha says to Dria, "'being there' ..." Quizzeramulus asks, "Other numbers?" Dria says, "ah...er...6ish" Quizzeramulus asks, "Third, are you more aware of your physical self or virtual persona in the virtual environment? One or the other or both?" Fluffy says, "um.. 6" laurie says, "i feel more 'there' with usenet than i do with other media." Quizzeramulus says, "This is being projected by the way." laurie says, "i feel very conscious of my placement at the computer because it's not really comfortable." Dria says, "#3: um...virtual persona, by far." Fluffy says, "lots of enthusiasm about telepresence" Fluffy says, "alan jumped up and down" Rakosha grins at Fluffy. Quizzeramulus says, "In your virtual environment do you form mental images? no, yes, of people I interact with, yes, of the actual environment, yes, of both" laurie says, "yes and yes" Dria says, "4 a) yes, b) no." Dria says, "yes, people: no, environment" laurie says, "it depends on how much the environment has been written." Speaker fades in from Entry Point and joins you. Quizzeramulus says, "When you are reading messages, do you "hear" what people are saying? no, yes hear with own voice, yes hear with voice of the other..." Dria says, "I hear in the imagined voice of the other, in their actual voice if I've heard it." Fluffy says, "factors - suspending disbelief & Imagination" laurie says, "i don't think so. that's a hard question. maybe. i want to know how words are pronounced, how names are pronounced." Quizzeramulus says, "I tend to hear with a group of voices; I generally do form mental images, particularly with net sexuality; I'm aware of both physical and virtual self, although I don't make a difference." Quizzeramulus says, "Some responses here -" laurie says, "it's like being inside a novel. being wrapped up in a novel." Fluffy asks, "telepresence in MOO - self or character?" Quizzeramulus says, "Awareness of self - "O I don't think I really draw a distinction. It's all me." Quizzeramulus says, "I know I am at my keyboard typing, but in a way I'm also there in spirit." laurie says, "self, mostly." Fluffy says, "quotes - "no distinction, its all me" " Quizzeramulus says, "It overlaps and fades in and out..." Dria says, "it's all self." Quizzeramulus exclaims, "I'm there man!! all of me!" Rakosha says, "both ..." Raxcip has @joined you. Quizzeramulus says, "These are all different repsonses on the screen (projected) -" Fluffy says, " Iknow I'm typingm but I'm there in spirit" Rakosha grins at Fluffy. Quizzeramulus says, "There's a wide range of responses..." Fluffy says, "It overlaps and fades in and out" Fluffy exclaims, "I'm there man, all of me !" Rakosha chuckles. Dria says, "I overlap and fade in and out. Still me :>" Martin says, ""I fall aspleep" Fluffy types blind - heavy sunglasses on Rakosha licks Martin ever so slowly. Martin says, "Ah ... thanks." laurie says, "i don't come on with a character to play, if that's what you mean." Dria grins Sn00dle_Guest fades in from Entry Point and joins you. Rakosha smiles brightly at Martin ... Martin says, "It's all part of the same thing for me ..." Rakosha smiles at Sn00dle_Guest. Dria says, "even the characters are me." Sn00dle_Guest says, "hi all" Fluffy says, "images formed depends on quality of descrfiption" HiroshigiUtamari says, "There is a wide range all the way through - I rjust see what's on the screen, etc." laurie says, "i agree with fluffy about description." Fluffy says, "images of otheers - a large range" HiroshigiUtamari says, "Images of Mooers, I've never been any good at placing an image with a voice or words ..." Fluffy says, "well written descriptions aid" HiroshigiUtamari says, "Yes, whenever possible I form images. Easier with descs." Goatium_Guest fades in from Entry Point and joins you. Martin says, "anyone wathing cu-seeme" HiroshigiUtamari says, "Conscious of typing and reading on MOOs" Rakosha says, "imagery based on the @desc ..." HiroshigiUtamari says, "If u type as bad as me, u'd be conscious too." Fluffy asks, "how conscious of typing / reading on Moo?" HiroshigiUtamari says, "Hardly at all... I barely notice." HiroshigiUtamari says, "Reading, no, typing yes, because I have to look down, etc." HiroshigiUtamari says, "Etc. and so forth" laurie says, "i type fast so i don't notice it much." HiroshigiUtamari says, "Wide rage." HiroshigiUtamari says, "RRange" Dria says, "um...it's just an extension of me now....zen typing " Fluffy says, "me too - typing" HiroshigiUtamari says, "RRRRRRRRRRRRRange...." Rakosha says, "i type reasonably fast, even blind ;)" laurie says, "reading is hard the more people who are talking." Rakosha nods to laurie. Fluffy claps on hand Goatium_Guest asks, "how has the conference been going?" Fluffy claps ONE hand Sn00dle_Guest says, "i type pretty fast too... it's pretty fun if you get going fast enbough that you forget .." Dria smiles at Fluffy HiroshigiUtamari says, "Summary - wide variation of response, some don't distinguish between self and character, imagery ability aids telepresence, degree of telepresence fluctuates over time, and distractions from physical environment etc. affect telepresence." Rakosha grins at Sn00dle_Guest. HiroshigiUtamari says, "Whew" Fluffy grins Rakosha grins. HiroshigiUtamari says, "Now, talking about tele. on IRC." Sn00dle_Guest exclaims to Rakosha, "hi!" Rakosha says, "awareness of self or nick in irc ..." Rakosha says to Sn00dle_Guest, "hi ... :)" Dria says, "I'm always 'Dria'...I am Dria as much as I am other than Dria. (weird answer, I know)" Martin asks, "Who *is* Nick?" HiroshigiUtamari says, "Some people couldn't distinguish between their physical and virtaul self." Dria says, "even on IRC I'm Dria" Martin says, "I'm not aware" Rakosha says, "irc channels ..." Sn00dle_Guest says, "irc .. it's funny ... strikes me as an endless vertical apartment building, like from the end of the Empire Strikes Back ... people flitting straight up & straight down, cube to cube" laurie says, "i've only been on irc in a medical support channel, so i was just plain me there." Fluffy says, "irc? never don it... which irks me :)" HiroshigiUtamari says, "Do people form images of channels - here as well full range of responses - some had images, some had spatial representations, some actually pictured a placwe whe where they met, most often a room" Rakosha says, "not into irc ..." HiroshigiUtamari says, "sorry for the bad typing..." Dria says, "IRC can be really annoying." Rakosha runs around madly squealing 'moo moo moo ... !' Dria says, "no..no images of channels." Fluffy says, "talking images of IRC people" Goatium_Guest asks, "Hi everyone. Is anyone talking about the cybermind conference proceedings anywhere?" Fluffy says, "some don't form images coz they 've seen pics and been totally mislead in their assumptions" Dria says, "yes...sometimes images of IRC, less so than in other places..it's more ethereal." Rakosha says to Goatium_Guest, "yah ... here ... ;)" Rakosha nods to Fluffy. Fluffy says, "this is Cybermind conference - dictated live" Fluffy says, "... and badly" Dria says, ""curvy?" Heeh." Sn00dle_Guest asks, "are we on a big screen?" Goatium_Guest says, "Hahah Sorry to be a dope. I am really looking for Alan Sondheim...MOOs aren't my hangout" MOO_DESIRE-OF-CLOUDY-MOUNTAIN says, "Now images of IRC people - all different - some hear some don't hear IRC voices..." Rakosha nods to Sn00dle_Guest. Fluffy says, "projection PLUS" MOO_DESIRE-OF-CLOUDY-MOUNTAIN asks, "Who is looking for me?" Sn00dle_Guest says, "neat." Rakosha pokes Goatium_Guest. Dria says, "IRC definately hear other (imagined) voices..." Fluffy says, "meeting IRC in RL means can hear voice on IRc in future" Rakosha says, "actions in irc ..." Goatium_Guest asks, "Oh lordy, Alan is that you behind that handle?" Dria is starting to sound nutty. :> Rakosha grins at Goatium_Guest. Rakosha cheers enthusiastically at Dria. Just_Zis_huy_You_Know goes out through the out door. Dria grins Fluffy says, "visualising actions in IRC" Sn00dle_Guest . o O (just zis huy?) Just_Zis_Guy_You_Know fades in from Entry Point and joins you. Fluffy says, "actions on IRC - mixed responses" Dria says, "(zaphond)" Dria says, "(zaphod, rather)" Fluffy says, "osome feel waste of space - others think it helps" Just_Zis_Guy_You_Know fiddles with an extra head. Sn00dle_Guest says, "Zaphod Huy, from Taipei" Dria snickers laurie says, "it takes such a high level of concentration." Rakosha says, "people saying they feel like they're 'talking' on irc ..." Fluffy says, "summing up - wide variation of expereince" Sn00dle_Guest says, "sorry :) but typos are fun to fool with .." Rakosha nods to Fluffy. Just_Zis_Guy_You_Know grins. Fluffy says, "description helped visibly :)" EVERYONE_YOU_KNOW says, "Wide variety in the degree; some don't distinguish between self and nick; and so forth (similar to previous summary" Rakosha smirks at Just_Zis_Guy_You_Know. EVERYONE_YOU_KNOW says, "What seems surprising - high degree of similarity betwen MOOs and IRC in terms of IRC. " Dria notes a lack of quesions A_small_rock_called_Brian says, "eep" Goatium_Guest says, "This is strange for me. I wonder how many of you I know from the FOP list, which is so static..." Fluffy finding typing hard without eyes EVERYONE_YOU_KNOW says, "Findings suggest personal factors are the primary determinant of whether or not tele. will be experienced." Dria grins Rakosha bites A_small_rock_called_Brian hungrily. EVERYONE_YOU_KNOW says, "Environmental factors affect the degree opf telepresence." A_small_rock_called_Brian says, "mmm" A_small_rock_called_Brian says, "Crunches" Rakosha leans in close to A_small_rock_called_Brian. A_small_rock_called_Brian crunches EVERYONE_YOU_KNOW says, "All of you are imitating my long name lengths..." Fluffy claps Dria says, "am not." Rakosha says, "clap clap clap ///" Fluffy asks, "QUESTIONS?" Raxcip claps Dria cringes madly at hte *loud* applause again :) Fluffy says, "its question time" Oh_no_Im_not_Alan I don't think. allofyouarenotmebutmeagreimitations says, "This section is over - we're moving on to Stelarc after the Q&A" laurie asks, "does anyone else get a headache when so many people are talking?" Sn00dle_Guest asks, "so, uh, what is happening in perth? Are you hotelroom swapping, filling up ice buckets, drinking, and looking at screensavers?" Dria says, "nope..." allofyouarenotmebutmeagreimitations says, "No" Fluffy says, "mechanics of interface helps - a good typist can background interface and project into telepresence state" allofyouarenotmebutmeagreimitations says, "Fluffy, yes, absolutely - also I think the software GUI used." allofyouarenotmebutmeagreimitations says, "or shell account, etc." Fluffy says, "BUT experience in 3d environs doesn't seem to increase telepresence" Goatium_Guest asks, "Which has been the most surprising presentation so far at the conference?" Dria says, "I'd find the 3d stuff to be more distracting." Fluffy exclaims, "the next one!" Rakosha grins at Fluffy. Goatium_Guest says, "Ahhhhh" Hmmm.... says, "Q&A still goes on - yes, we've asked all the questions here..." Sn00dle_Guest says, ":)" Maretin goes out through the out door. Marty fades in from Entry Point and joins you. Fluffy says, "comfort level in different environs varies between people" Rakosha smiles at Marty. Dria grins at Marty Hmmm.... says, "Talking about feedback from _the other side_ -" Fluffy says, "perceived similarity and identification with others DOES affect telepresence" Hmmm.... exclaims, "STARS ON THE SCREEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!"