Rakosha howls long and loud at the full moon ...
Rakosha shouts, "ok peoples ... :)"
laurie asks, "who is agent davros?"
Alan has @joined you.
Rakosha says, "Jon Marshall - Virtual Hauntings "
Rakosha foos vaguely.
Rakosha grins mischieviously.
Alan exclaims, "Hello again, everyone!!!!"
laurie says, "hi, alan"
Rakosha says, "we're not being projected ..."
Alan says, "We're being projected again; this is a paper from Jon Marshall."
Rakosha smiles.
Dria asks, "um?  projected or not?"
laurie asks, "will cuseeme be on?"
Rakosha says, "ack ... maybe ... one sec ..."
Alan says, "We're not being projected agian."
Alan says, "We are."
Rakosha grins at Alan.
Alan says, "we're not."
Alan says, "OOps, we are. oops not."
Rakosha says, "total total total swirl ..."
Rakosha spins around happily.
Rakosha spins around happily.
Rakosha spins around happily.
Alan says, "Talking about english speaking Net culture -"
Rakosha flip head over heels.
Rakosha sits in one of the conference seats.
laurie sits in one of the conference seats.
Alan flips Rakosha
Dria asks, "RA?"
Rakosha has been flipped ... ;P
Alan says, "I think RA"
Rakosha says, "martin's working on the moo projection ... give us time ..."
Rakosha smiles.
Dria says, "okey."
Dria goes back to writing her poem..brb
Rakosha smiles at Dria.
Alan says, "Talking about group boundaries, elaborated ritual codes for expressoin of continuity and identity"
Alan says, "Society generates body scheme"
Richard reconnects.
Rakosha says, "projected, now ... :)"
Alan says, "Thanks, Martin"
Rakosha smiles at Martin.
Martin says, "RA, yes ..."
Alan says, "People feel unable to control their own or their groups' identity or security."
Alan asks, "The animal within, id, etc. - should the unconstructed other be expressed?"
laurie asks, "cuseeme?"
Alan says, "Defined as expression of the uncontrollable. - No recognized means to channel or deal with it."
Rakosha says to laurie, "he's onto it ..."
laurie says, "ok, thank you, martin."
Rakosha grins at Martin's RudeTones ...
Alan says, "One perso"Third metaphor - mind/body split - we've ignored solutions of this inorder to define power in terms of one or the other"
Alan says, "Cartesian split arises in relation to successful strategy by one class."
Alan says, "Became institutionalized - governors and governed - mind / body work"
Alan says, "Ghost becomes more etherial as the process becomes more pronounced."
Alan says, "Goes on w/ Derrida about all of this."
Rakosha chuckles.
Alan says, "Constructions of the mind might be tetherializing again"
Alan says, "Ok, mind um... is a virtaul body construction"
Martin says, "CUseemehopme"
Alan says, "set of constructions constrtucted as differnt from that of the physical body"
Martin says, "cu see me"
Rakosha chuckles at Martin.
Alan says, "constructions of ghosts, sprits, etc. are not universal"
Rakosha says, "full action ... :)"
Alan says, "One group has 13 part soul fgor example"
laurie says, "cuseeme seems to be sort of working. well enough for me any way."
Alan says, "Relating to alchemy - matter can be etherialized"
Rakosha smiles at laurie.
Alan says, "Ghosts of 17th century or earlier were practical beings."
Alan smiles.
Alan laughs.
Alan says, "Ghosts did not float through walls, but opened and closed doors"
Alan says, "normal in appearance"
Alan says, "later insubstantial, mute, generally unaware of the viewer"
Alan says, "ghosts as perceived are completely not-there, not evil, etc. not lurking like you guys\"
Rakosha grins at Alan.
Alan kicks herself.
laurie says, "i feel rather ghostly."
Dria lurks grumpily
Alan says, "Ghosts stories have been s"We now represent minds as programs, no distinction between computers thinking humans, computers becoming hosts to spirits"
Alan asks, "Dria, why?"
Alan says, "On the Net, omnipresent ghost who can interact everywhere and with anything"
Dria says, "long story"
Rakosha hugs Dria warmly.
Dria smiles a bit
Rakosha snoodles Dria frenzily.
Alan says, "People on MOOS ARE LIKE GHOSTS AND TO SOME EXTENT TREATED THA WAY MERGE WITH THE SPRITIAUL REALMS OF THE PROGRAM CAN APPEAR OUT OF NOWHERE"
Dria grins
Rakosha cringes at the shouting, again ...
Alan exclaims, ""YOU GUYS!"
Dria asks, "is that some kinda hint?"
Alan exclaims, ""Zone write I feel like a spectrre?!!!"
Alan says, "wrote"
Alan says, "yesterday"
Rakosha nods to Alan.
Alan says, "Bernadette says "we desire to merge but our body gets in the way - " letter to Jon - now quoting from Paradise Lost"
Martin says, "nice hat"
Rakosha grins at Martin.
Rakosha says, "very 'hat' ..."
Martin asks, "old hat?"
Rakosha says, "kristeva hat ... ;)"
Spectres says, "talking about humans as mediators across boundaries that we tend to want to dissolve..."
Martin grins
Rakosha peers at the Spectres ...
Abraham_Lincoln says, "- relation in the talk to Bruno Latour I think, Have We Ever Been Modern"
laurie asks, "what kind of boundaries?"lincoln said that?"
Abraham_Lincoln says, "Time is short, Jon has to delete some stuff...."
Abraham_Lincoln says, "No possibilities of separation in cyberspace..."
Martin exclaims, "A spectre appeared!"
Rakosha grins at Martin.
laurie says, "i'm confused as usual"
Dria wants her RA back.  *sigh*
Martin says, "Jon hit the overhead button by accident ... Stlarcs picture popped up ..."
Jacques_Derrida says, "Death here has no relation to life, "
Jacques_Derrida says, "We suffer in cyberspace from absence continually -"
Jacques_Derrida says, "We only use three emoticons."
Rakosha says, "k* on CUseeme ..."
Martin asks, "Laurie see Karen on CUseeme?"
Martin says, "Lynne"
laurie says, "i'm suffering from absence right now."
Martin says, "Stelarc"
Martin exclaims, "Me!"
Jacques_Derrida says, "In any culture that uses non-verbal forms of etiquette, there are forms that express their habitus - why are particular signs used in particular cultural milieus."
laurie says, "i can see someone."
Ephemeral-Object-Like-Thing asks, "Can we imagine Net cultures that would limit sexual contact between people or be happy to remain disembodied?"
Ephemeral-Object-Like-Thing says, "Love is our prime justification for intimacy between the sexes - we can keep this -"
Rakosha bounces around happily.
Ephemeral-Object-Like-Thing says, "Who are we? Here? A questoin implied at the moment..."
Martin says, "Cu intros following ..."
Martin says, "Karen.."
Ephemeral-Object-Like-Thing says, "Tendency towards immediate and fast intensity..."
Martin says, "Richard"
Ephemeral-Object-Like-Thing says, "About email lists - don't have to spend long to know what the rules are."
Rakosha . o O ( the hat ... ! )
Martin says, "Jerry"
Rakosha . o O ( erm ... another hat ... )
Martin says, ""Rakosha"
Rakosha acks.
Rakosha foos vaguely.
Martin says, "Missed cassie before .."
Just-A-Ghost says, "you don't know real gender on the Net - but side affects of gender don't exist - all you have is sex and bonding"
Rakosha hides ...
Rakosha foos vaguely.
laurie exclaims, "keep your hands down off your faces so I can see you guys!"
Just-A-Ghost says, "Talking about the ghostlike qualities here -"
Just-A-Ghost says, "Talks about our ease of similarity making...."
Martin says, "George"
Martin says, "Fanny"
Martin says, "Nitram"
Rakosha grins at Martin.
Invisible_Body-Before-the-Skin says, "The computer is the body being held back, people without computers are ghosts without impact."
Martin says, "Lynne"
laurie exclaims, "hi fanny!"
Rakosha says to laurie, "she's smiling ..."
Martin says, "um"
Invisible_Body-Before-the-Skin says, "Talking about the computer body - body becoming increasingly unwieldy, the moreso we theorize it."
Dria wonders "ghosts without impact?"
Martin says, "Jon"
laurie says, ":)"
Dria raises a questioning eyebrow.
Invisible_Body-Before-the-Skin says, "I just asked a 1qquestoin about whether the theorized body is a way of disposing it -"
Rakosha pokes Dria.
Invisible_Body-Before-the-Skin asks, "To Dria - about ghosts without impact - what about it?"
Rakosha says, "come on ... you're on ..."
Invisible_Body-Before-the-Skin says, "Referring to people not on the Net"
Dria says, "I just think I missed something.  Seemed like an odd thing to say.  That's all."
Invisible_Body-Before-the-Skin says, "It IS an odd thing to say..."
Rakosha chuckles.
Martin says, "Jon says odd things"
Invisible_Body-Before-the-Skin says, "But then were near the break agin..."
Dria says, "ah, okay  then :>"
Rakosha grins at Martin.
Invisible_Body-Before-the-Skin grins at everyone!
Martin grins.
Rakosha bops to the beat.
Rakosha . o O ( deafening applause ... ? )