Martin says, "Jerry Everard is talking - about we're living in an age of distributivity." Rakosha smiles at Martin. Martin says, "D/G recognized this in the implicit notion of the body without organs plus supplement." Martin says, "Deleuzian schizophrenia is the norm, pathological exception." Martin says, "Paper will explore a notion of networked subjectivity, using D/G's 3 aspects of subjectivity" Martin says, "Biolo;gical Subject, Internetworked Subject, and Subject of Territoy" Martin says, "Territory, not restricted to that of sovereign states." Ghost asks, "Does this distributivity apply to wealth and power?" Martin says, "Btw we're not being projected now - so ask away if you have ?s of my stuff" Martin says, "He's on with a critique of the Oedipal subject, the subject which is a cultural artifact." Dria says, "d'oh brb" Martin says, "Okie dokie Dria" Dria says, "back, spilt tea." Martin says, "The subject extends along multiple and fragmentary planes of discourse with extrusoins/irruptions that transgress or forms the boundaries of the subject." Martin says, "Essential practices of risk-taking to form the boundaries of the subject ;- the subject is rhizomic" Martin exclaims, "Someone just made a joke about eucalyptic!" Dria says, "Mark Poster writes about this stuff a lot. Not in such detail tho'. " Martin says, "subject precipitated into a fictive analogic subject (what I think would be called the suturing of the subject)" Martin says, "Yeah - the paper's dense and I think on the Net" Martin says, "At the website" Dria leaps into browser mode Martin says, "D/G are jargon-oriented and pretty dense" Raxcip has disconnected. Martin leaps into the browser - Raxcip has connected. Martin says, "articulate a variety of subjectivities under a variety of proper names... " Dria asks, "what's the paper called?" Martin says, "the subject is a Symptom of the cultural practices that invoke it" Rakosha smiles at Apocryphal. Martin says, "I like that a lot actually" Ghost nods. Dria asks, "I'm a symptom of culture?" Rakosha grins at Dria. Martin says, "Talking about ontological difrferences between individuals and states, he's dealing with the cultural individual produced by communicative (speaking) acts within an institutional framework" Dria says, "I know I'm a victim of culture, but that's different ;)" Rakosha grins at Dria. Martin says, "speaking means broader practices of socially meaningful action" Martin says, "states are losing their author-ity to a globalized economy" Martin says, "so he brings economy into it" Dria smiles Martin says, "talking about cyberspace in Neuromancer, Gibson" Martin smiles back Ghost nods. Martin says, "What happened to the sovereign subject? Has the Net moved subjectivity beyond cartography" Dria says, "oh my goodness, yes." Martin says, "Talking about MUD or MOO spaces with other names, names of otherness, etc. etc." Martin says, "Hi everyone, it's really cold here in the conference theater, raining outside, and Jerry everard is speaking" Rakosha . o O ( it's raining ... ? ) Martin says, "Moving right along... (yeah) - D/G - subjects seens as organizational existing in relation to other arrangements - territorialities, being arranged along its significs...." Martin says, "Jerry said he just put his teeth back in" Dria laughs Rakosha chuckles. Martin says, "analogically moments of territorialization may be considered as lines of flow or ruptures" Martin says, "the zero against which the one is defined" Dria 's brain hurtz. Martin says, "possibility of the illusory/binary - one in relatino to the other - calls the subject into being" Raxcip nods to Dria Rakosha grins at Raxcip. Martin says, "Hertz is the meaning of a rental car agent..." Martin says, "Between one and zero, J says, yep yep we got that" Rakosha grins at Martin. Dria says, "I'm a victim of culture and my brain is a rental car. Hm. ;>" Martin says, "prime conditions of the subject inherently schiozphrenic - vis-a-vis the 0 and 1 ;- but there's no dialectic here" Rakosha grins at Dria. Raxcip laughs! Martin says, "At least it's not Rent-A-Wreck..." Dria exclaims, "Uh...Hey!" Rakosha laughs. Martin says, "Talking about this movement up and down, throughout all levels..." Ghost smirks. Dria says, "oh wait...I thought you said it *was* a rent-a-wreck...okay." Rakosha chuckles. Martin exclaims, "read your log!! code red! read your log!" bree has @joined you. Dria grins bree grins and waves to all Martin says, "talking about boundary articulation now - correlation between deterritorializatoin and discourses of danger -" Dria . o O (alliteration, nice ;) Martin says, "the state, like the subject, is a cultural artifact" Martin says, "would be better if I could spell" Rakosha nods to Martin. Martin says, "state exists as data, historically contingent, contested" Ghost nods. Rakosha licks Martin ever so slowly. Martin :-) Rakosha grins at Martin. Martin says, "Wait til my paper --" Rakosha woos in great pleasure at Martin. Martin says, "It will be projected o gasp" Dria laugh Dria s's Martin says, "Joke : What is the sound of one hand typing? " bree gasps Martin says, "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...." bree giggles Rakosha laughs at Martin. Dria snickers Martin says, "Talking about economic globalization... and reterritorialization --" bree has disconnected. Martin says, "the forces that tend towards reterritorialization tend towards teritorialization as well. one cannot exist the presupposition of the other in the pathologically Oedipal subject" Dria asks, "will someone be transcribing while you speak?" bree has connected. Martin says, "I don't think so - so I may be able to type a word in now and then, but that would be it." Rakosha says to Martin, "let me know when alan's about to start so i can get there ..." Martin says, "Ok - it will be I think about eight minutes or so.. something like that - maybe 10" Rakosha nods to Martin. Martin says, "thanks" Dria pops an Alanis Morrissette cd in...tv sux. Martin says, "state system is constantly reinventing itself - " Rakosha picks up her guitar again ... Martin says, "the n-1 of the rhizomic subject, getting really dense here -" Martin says, "articulations of the subject as multiplicities." Dria plonks away quietly on a ch'in. (thx Alan :) Raxcip asks, "is there any hope of the Real Audio server working tonight?" Martin says, "D/G propose that the sub. is not layer upon layer, but is sculptured from stone, carved out, SUBTRACTED from the flow of social discourse" Martin asks, "is discourse an extractive industry?" Dria asks, "extractive?" Martin says, "programming and feedback/against the other, situating the subject - who is thus already (always already) cyborg" Martin says, "extractive - carving negatively away from the stone" Dria says, "ah...okay. I just got a coal-mine image in my head...not as...er..friendly." Martin says, "D/G rhizomatic subject has observable power for explanatory phenomena" Ghost asks, "Filtered?" Martin says, "Who knows :-)" Martin says, "Talking about the Internet as externalizing metaphor, socially constructed identities inherently contested - boundaries rigorously maintained." Dria . o 0 (sounds like a lack of Marxists to me ;) Martin says, "net subjectivites are continuously maintained - no, Marxists wd. agree with this..." Martin exclaims, "except for Trotskyites who don't agree with anyone!" Dria says, "I was referring to the language...very pomo" Dria laughs Martin says, "true pomo" Martin says, "moop poom omop"" Rakosha chuckles. Martin says, "talking about narrative suture maintaining the subject - referring to Jacques _ Alain Miller" Dria laughs and almost snorts tea (stop that :) Martin says, "we're going on to projection" Dria composes hirself Martin says, "This is right behind Jerry -" Martin says, "talking about territor. deterritorialization" Rakosha waves to everyone ... Martin says, "q&a at the moment, the two are always already reterritorializing" Martin says, "turning into another form (sounds like dialectics a bit here)" Martin says, "talking about Paul Taylor and the rhizomic"" Martin says, "an Aus. art theoretician (stayed with him in Melbourne) - " Rakosha bails to run down to the conference room ... Rakosha goes home.